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Re: 3rd Classes

Post by Loki on 13/9/2012, 04:41

Meh, this is why I don't like giving out ideas. Loth, you might as well change the thread to 'My ideas for 3rd Classes (And a bit of Skot in between)'.

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Re: 3rd Classes

Post by Skotlex on 13/9/2012, 07:58

*shrugs* well, you know, one shouldn't feel bad that an idea is not so good after thinking about it. Of course, Vitriol might be a bit harsh when shredding it down, but he has a point at times.

Throwing ideas seem to be the only thing left to do in the forums anyway u_u;

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Re: 3rd Classes

Post by Lothar Axe on 13/9/2012, 11:03

Loki wrote:Meh, this is why I don't like giving out ideas. Loth, you might as well change the thread to 'My ideas for 3rd Classes (And a bit of Skot in between)'.

It's not only me and Skotlex who made the ideas of the first post. I can post more suggestions for Thirds and then yeah, we should have to change this thread's name, but I'm tired of suggesting cause all I get is a painfull reception and nothing gets updated. The problems are around, I give an idea and I not only get a punch in the face, but the problems aren't solved, so I give up on this. If you want an idea to solve something ask me, otherwise I pledge myself to don't care at all even knowing a way to solve it. Ahh I'm tired, fuck this.

Well, I'm playing, let's partay sometime. And I want signatures. And thanks Vitriol, you freed me of doing something useless in my life.

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Re: 3rd Classes

Post by Vitriol on 13/9/2012, 16:01

Lothar Axe wrote:I not only get a punch in the face, but the problems aren't solved
hi-ya!
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Re: 3rd Classes

Post by Vitriol on 13/9/2012, 16:02

Lothar Axe wrote:
Well, I'm playing, let's partay sometime. And I want signatures. And thanks Vitriol, you freed me of doing something useless in my life.
on the contrary, ive freed the server of useless suggestions
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Re: 3rd Classes

Post by Lothar Axe on 13/9/2012, 18:38

Vitriol wrote:
Lothar Axe wrote:
Well, I'm playing, let's partay sometime. And I want signatures. And thanks Vitriol, you freed me of doing something useless in my life.
on the contrary, ive freed the server of useless suggestions

You sure know how to make someone angry.
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Re: 3rd Classes

Post by Fruit Pie~ on 13/9/2012, 21:33

Honestly, considering Vitriol's only real suggestion in this forum so far was "GUYS, WE NEED MORE PORN SPRITES IN HERE", I'd say he has no point at all, ever.

Not that Lothar has a point in trying to bring 3rd classes so all zero people here can have a couple more character options to mess around with. It's like painting a picture while blindfolded, then destroying it before anyone sees it.

But I'm taking his misguided attempts to help over Vitriol's misguided attempts to, uh... help? Do we even call what he does help? He really just wants excuses to post low-quality gifs of transexuals.

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Re: 3rd Classes

Post by Vitriol on 14/9/2012, 01:19

Fruit Pie~ wrote:Honestly, considering Vitriol's only real suggestion in this forum so far was "GUYS, WE NEED MORE PORN SPRITES IN HERE", I'd say he has no point at all, ever.


Not that Lothar has a point in trying to bring 3rd classes so all zero people here can have a couple more character options to mess around with. It's like painting a picture while blindfolded, then destroying it before anyone sees it.

But I'm taking his misguided attempts to help over Vitriol's misguided attempts to, uh... help? Do we even call what he does help? He really just wants excuses to post low-quality gifs of transexuals.
low quality?

honey, this wig cost a fortune. see these boots? designer boots. i am most definitely a high quality transvestite
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Re: 3rd Classes

Post by Skotlex on 14/9/2012, 08:28

He easily has now the highest post count.

If I were mean I'd say that, however, that probably implies "quantity over quality." But since I am not, I will not say that.
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Re: 3rd Classes

Post by Loki on 14/9/2012, 14:09

Vitriol is the only painful reception I see Loth.

I'll do it Skot. Vitriol = Quantity over quality
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Re: 3rd Classes

Post by to3phu on 14/9/2012, 16:17

you guys realizing you're feeding into the fire, keeping mentioning his stupid ass?

Anyways, let's just wait and see what skot does. Could always have a "beta" test server going on
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Re: 3rd Classes

Post by Stonechimes on 14/9/2012, 22:59

to3phu wrote:Anyways, let's just wait and see what skot does. Could always have a "beta" test server going on
Let's point and laugh.
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Re: 3rd Classes

Post by Vitriol on 15/9/2012, 00:15

to3phu wrote:you guys realizing you're feeding into the fire, keeping mentioning his stupid ass?

mission accomplished!
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Re: 3rd Classes

Post by Vitriol on 15/9/2012, 00:22

Loki wrote:Vitriol is the only painful reception I see Loth.

I'll do it Skot. Vitriol = Quantity over quality


my quality and quantity are both over 9000. there is no use quibbling over the relative amounts. both are sufficiently high, as expected
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Re: 3rd Classes

Post by Vitriol on 15/9/2012, 00:35

to3phu wrote:keeping mentioning
fat and illiterate...a deadly combination
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Re: 3rd Classes

Post by Lothar Axe on 15/9/2012, 00:44


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Re: 3rd Classes

Post by Vitriol on 15/9/2012, 04:42

Lothar Axe wrote:
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oh look, another of lothar's useless suggestions!
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Re: 3rd Classes

Post by Loki on 15/9/2012, 07:07

to3phu wrote:you guys realizing you're feeding into the fire, keeping mentioning his stupid ass?

So it was a donkey's name after all this time?
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Re: 3rd Classes

Post by Crazy Toni on 11/10/2012, 12:38

Here's my mad idea:

Straight-to-the-top-System v2 or Cut the Fluff System:
Basically, you change from novice straight to 3rd class.
Cut out rebirthing entirely and first, second, and trans class looks would work as skins.
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Re: 3rd Classes

Post by Fruit Pie~ on 11/10/2012, 13:27

Crazy Toni wrote:Here's my mad idea:

Straight-to-the-top-System v2 or Cut the Fluff System:
Basically, you change from novice straight to 3rd class.
Cut out rebirthing entirely and first, second, and trans class looks would work as skins.
That's a fantastic idea, but would also probably break RO's skill tree.

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Re: 3rd Classes

Post by Bard on 27/6/2013, 12:38

Lothar Axe wrote:
Lothar Way: Thirds will be added as another second class in the same way as Ninjas and Gunslingers were added, and so they will count only with their own skill pool instead of receiving skills from Second classes. Some skills from second classes would be added to Thirds so they could work, as some of them are essential, and also some skills would suffer serious changes to increase their possibilities and fill up some other requirements. For example, now your High Mage can choose between becoming a Professor, a High Wizard, a Warlock or a Sorcerer. The Warlock and Sorcerer wont have neither Wizard, neither Sage skill pools, except for one or another skill.

[This way means more work, more suggestions, and bad suggestions might mean fail, but essentially tries to preserve the Trans classes as we have now, and add the Thirds just the way they are, maximizing the use of their skill pools, mazimizing the class itself, all to keep the old and the new]
Here's Loth Diagram:

.............................................................................../ > + (Second Class) Trans Class
First Class -> Second Class - |Rebirth| - High First Class -|
.............................................................................. \ > Third Class + (With one or another Second class skills)

Something like this?:

Stalker vs Shadow Chaser
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Re: 3rd Classes

Post by Lothar Axe on 5/7/2013, 20:18

Bard wrote:
Lothar Axe wrote:
Lothar Way: Thirds will be added as another second class in the same way as Ninjas and Gunslingers were added, and so they will count only with their own skill pool instead of receiving skills from Second classes. Some skills from second classes would be added to Thirds so they could work, as some of them are essential, and also some skills would suffer serious changes to increase their possibilities and fill up some other requirements. For example, now your High Mage can choose between becoming a Professor, a High Wizard, a Warlock or a Sorcerer. The Warlock and Sorcerer wont have neither Wizard, neither Sage skill pools, except for one or another skill.

[This way means more work, more suggestions, and bad suggestions might mean fail, but essentially tries to preserve the Trans classes as we have now, and add the Thirds just the way they are, maximizing the use of their skill pools, mazimizing the class itself, all to keep the old and the new]
Here's Loth Diagram:

.............................................................................../ > + (Second Class) Trans Class
First Class -> Second Class - |Rebirth| - High First Class -|
.............................................................................. \ > Third Class + (With one or another Second class skills)

Something like this?:

Stalker vs Shadow Chaser

 Looks like the finished thing. Yep.
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Re: 3rd Classes

Post by Kalimus on 14/11/2013, 01:29

I'll give my opinion... I think the best way is to put the 3rd classes like in the oficial server... Because the 3rds are realy fucking ovr powers... And implementing them like you are sugesting will be realy realy realy broken... Imagine a Shura, using GATES OF HELL, with the merchant skill that makes his weight limit up! He will kill every fucking thing in the game!

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Re: 3rd Classes

Post by Lothar Axe on 14/11/2013, 01:47

Kalimus wrote:I'll give my opinion... I think the best way is to put the 3rd classes like in the oficial server... Because the 3rds are realy fucking ovr powers... And implementing them like you are sugesting will be realy realy realy broken... Imagine a Shura, using GATES OF HELL, with the merchant skill that makes his weight limit up! He will kill every fucking thing in the game!
With which suggestion is that? Shocked
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Re: 3rd Classes

Post by Fruit Pie~ on 14/11/2013, 10:09

That's, uh, weird. What Merchant skill? Who suggested connecting Shuras to Merchies? =/

Also, you do realize everyone can get Weight Limit Up in MouRO, right? Also in the official servers!

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Re: 3rd Classes

Post by bombxhead on 14/11/2013, 12:30

[ Didn't someone suggest something about free class advancement? Doesn't he means to not use that free advancement or something like that ? ]
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Re: 3rd Classes

Post by Fruit Pie~ on 14/11/2013, 12:34

Oh, true! It does lead into silly combinations - helloooooo, SinX Knight!

Allow me to suggest something different then (I know this isn't the Crazy Suggestions thread) : 

The Fruit Way : Every class is top tier. Wanna pick Swordsman? Go right ahead, but you don't get class changes. Wanna go straight for LK or RK? Sure, no problems, but you don't get any Swordsman skills. Would obviously need some stat rebalancing and some skill redistribution, but perma-Swordies!

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Re: 3rd Classes

Post by bombxhead on 14/11/2013, 13:15

[ that seems fun for me, but how would SN and his "upgraded version" work? would they merge?]
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